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    Why Not Here

    Over on facebook Dale started a forum Memories of the DQ preferably before 1990. The response has been terrific with a lot of great pictures and great stories. They need to be preserved. They will be a gold mine for some future researcher...and believe me there will be one someday. It's a shame that it wasn't put on this forum where it is preserved and researched. Heck, I can't find something 6 hours after I first see it on facebook. Perhaps I don't know how, but it certainly isn't as easy to find as it is on this wonder site.

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    The DQ Facebook page

    To clarify it Jim, I started that Facebook page, not Dale. The reason I placed it on Facebook is because that is where the posters/contributors are - even Dale now! And you can see how much he has posted already of the pre 70s DQ days in Cincinnati, something which I treasure reading because that was not part of my DQ experience. Finding something past on Facebook IS a pain. Org. is so much better for archiving and researching past topics, but there are two major drawbacks here: 1)only 3 pictures per posting are allowed, and if you've posted a picture even years ago on another topic, you can't repost it now. 2) the readership is on Facebook, not here on .org. Look how few responses we get when we post now! Yes, there are lurkers out there, but that number is dwindling too. Franz and Carmen have provided us with a fantastic repository over the years here, but they do not have the financial capabilities of Zuckerberg or whatever the Facebook guy's name is, and thus the limitations here. I'll gladly start that topic here - so post away!

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      #3
      Judy, you are correct on all counts. In addition, Facebook has the "like" buttons, and related ways to acknowledge a post. Many times here on steamboats.org, I might find something very interesting, but have no real comment to make, certainly not the 25 character minimum. So, that's why we are not putting as much here as on FB. It's also a lot easier to share with folks on FB, those who may not be here on dot.org. As Judy says, Franz has already provided a great thing for us, but the software is different and upgrading to something as user-friendly with all those capabilities is expensive.

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        #4
        Here's why, Jim

        The DQ memories thread has been up for 24 hours now. Bob Reynolds is the only one to respond. The first 24 hours on Facebook brought multiple postings and pix. THAT's why 'not on here' Jim. Looking forward to some of your pix and memories though...

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          #5
          Why here, please.

          Hi Judy,

          Yes, here please. Not on Facebook with no plans to be adding personal interest information on a forum wide open to "Data Mining".

          Best regards,

          Russ Ryle

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            #6
            Its here, Russ

            Its here, Russ, so post away! Most of my pix are already on .org in previous threads so I suggest you look my name up and find those earlier DQ threads. I don't plan to remove those pix and repost them here.

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              #7
              Franz brought us out of captivity and the wilderness into the promised land. I told Franz on one of his visits to my home that Steamboats.org was the best thing to happen to us river nuts since Fred Way started the Reflector. Now everybody is deserting, its almost like treason. I do understand though as I have repeatedly tried to start a new thread only to be met with silence. You all move on, Jim Reising and I will just have a private session.

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                #8
                I'm still here! I just wish that I could post pics over here, but with this old worn out computer I can't post any pictures here or there now.

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                  #9
                  I'm still here too, Bill. steamboats.org is a great repository of accurate information, and we can continue to use it. However, it is more convenient in some respects to post on Facebook. Both the upsides and downsides are listed above in this thread. I'm not sure I want to be labeled a "lurker" if I don't respond to a post, but also don't want to respond if I have nothing to add to the conversation. I wish we could have all that's been discussed here in a book form, indexed. Wouldn't THAT be a treasure trove of info.!

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                    #10
                    Despite that comment Bill..

                    I'm still here and will remain here. I started the thread which Jim wanted (he could have started it himself) and I will add to it when I find pix that I haven't already posted on .org. As I stated once you post a pix, you can't post it in another thread unless you find it and remove it from the first thread. I'm not doing that. Unfortunately it looks like Jim wanted to stir something up, and he did. But if you truly want this place to continue to be worthwhile, you need to post, not just lurk. And by 'you' I mean the generic whoever is reading this. It is nice to know people are looking, but it would be nicer if more people would post too. That is something which Facebook definitely has over .org because of its simplicity. Now Bill, if you and Jim wish to be alone on here, just say so and we can leave. I think I have more than sufficiently shared on here even though I also post on Facebook and don't feel that comment was appropriate.

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                      #11
                      Judy, please forgive me for not giving you the credit you so rightly deserve for starting the thread. I bet you never thought it would be so successful. The reason I haven't posted more is because I have nothing to post.....my computer went "squeeee" a couple of months ago and I lost all the pictures I had scanned. I am in Florida and my dusty boxes are at home. I write comments from what I remember but have no pictures to post. I think what Bill was trying to say is it seemed like he and I were the only ones looking at .org on a regular basis.
                      As you know I am a river history freak and the resource you started is excellent and it needs to be preserved because in just a very few short years those who remember those times will be gone with the wind.

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                        #12
                        What I said was in half jest, we all realize how hard you and a few others have tried to keep .org alive. I certainly did not in anyway mean to offend you. As to Capt. Bob's comments I too read and then think, what can I add. If it warrants it I will jump right in with my opinion or what little knowledge I have.

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                          #13
                          Thanks guys...

                          We are of the pre-hi tech generation, and truth be known, we'd love to have these postings on paper in a book rather than in electronic fashion, but unfortunately that isn't today. It is great how quickly we can spread info through the internet though, much more efficiently than by print. We all are sharing our frustration in the lack of postings on .org compared to its early days, and yes Facebook is probably the main culprit for this. When you look at the statistics there are a few thousand 'members' on here, but right now there are only 31 deemed as active. But when you look at the number who have viewed a thread, it usually is in the hundreds, so we are not posting to a vacuum. And perhaps we older ones may think our memories, experiences aren't of interest to younger people so we don't share them. And we aren't conditioned to post just to be posting. Well, time to go have some Eggbeaters for breakfast. Oops, sorry that's Facebook stuff ;-)

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                            #14
                            And people on dial-up, like me, cannot access Facebook--it takes up way too much bandwidth--but Steamboats.org doesn't!!
                            The whole world does not exist on Facebook!!!

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                              #15
                              *Why not here?/FACEBOOK*
                              Morning, Steamboating colleagues:
                              Interesting thread here and I agree with you all. I'm still here for sure with a number of 'private off-line' messages for other information, history coming to me. Judy makes a good point with .org after all these years. I never heard of steamboats.org until Judy opened her lap computer at an S&D meeting years back tuning us in. One problem I've had is not being able to post photos here direct no matter what I do. Steamboats.org also allows for the 'private message' application to ask questions, correct a posting or statement--even vent concern and anger. It's a give-and-take process. Remember, things written/posted at times done so with a different intrepretion by the reader. "Post in haste, repent in leisure." You'd be surprised at the 'eyes' who lurk, click, read here from politcal action to legal eyes. I 'think' .org originally conceived as a total DELTA QUEEN site, diversifed, expanded the discussion threads. Granted there's even been some rough days here with misunderstandings between posters that were ironed out 'off line.' FACEBOOK has the direct link with news on your E=Mail side about new postings, comments etc. as they come in this web lacks. Just an observation.

                              Correction above. I had nothing to do with setting up the new FACEBOOK web 'DELTA QUEEN Memories...pre 1990s.' I received one of those invitations to join and did. its' good for sure but I agree with Jim about it not being as "permanent" as Steamboats.org. Since then there has been an explosion in new FACEBOOK webs from DELTA QUEEN to Cincinnait history, Great Lakes ships, ocean liners on and on. Great stuff, but to check with each would have me on FACEBOOK for hours a day. I like Steamboats.org and 'DELTA QUEEN Memories. We thank you Franz and Carmen! Well, what do I know?
                              R. Dale Flick
                              Old Coal Haven Landing, Ohio River, Cincinnati.

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