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    #16
    What of the boat once the show is over?

    I can understand why you want a big boat for the show - but what happens to the boat after the show is done? If you go with an abandoned casino boat, restoring it means making it into a real boat, an excursion boat. No casinos want boats anymore - that was just the industry's way of getting into the river towns. The casinos are all on land now. And while those of us on this board would enjoy and take several trips on it as an excursion boat, there really isn't a market anywhere that I am aware of for a 1000+ passenger vessel. And as Frank pointed out, the CRI owners, as well as other casino boat owners, want to dump them onto someone else, not renovate them. So do you have buyers lined up, or would you just fix up a boat for the show and then dump it? I'm not familiar with the vessels Wesley mentioned, but you should look at other waters besides the rivers, since it doesn't seem likely you'll find what you are looking for on the river. It would be wonderful if you could use the DELTA QUEEN, but I don't think it would fit in your timeline. By the way, her passenger load is only 176, but that is because she is an overnight vessel with staterooms. Her dimensions of 285 x 58 would be comparable to what you are looking for though.

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      #17
      Hi Judy, i'll be completely honest - we haven't given much thought yet to what happens AFTER the show. Putting a show together in the first place (any show) is such a monumental task, and always a long shot, that considering what happens after the show isn't something we can really do at this stage. If and when the show sells to a network - then we start looking at the bigger picture.

      I personally have no interest in restoring something and then dumping it! What happens after the boat is restored would depend on who actually owns the boat, and paid for the restoration. It most likely will be a foundation or private financing.

      If in the end, we have to aim a bit smaller, we'll consider that. But we're aiming high at first and want to see what turns up in that direction first.

      Thanks for your input though! This all helps us!



      Originally posted by Judy Patsch View Post
      I can understand why you want a big boat for the show - but what happens to the boat after the show is done? If you go with an abandoned casino boat, restoring it means making it into a real boat, an excursion boat. No casinos want boats anymore - that was just the industry's way of getting into the river towns. The casinos are all on land now. And while those of us on this board would enjoy and take several trips on it as an excursion boat, there really isn't a market anywhere that I am aware of for a 1000+ passenger vessel. And as Frank pointed out, the CRI owners, as well as other casino boat owners, want to dump them onto someone else, not renovate them. So do you have buyers lined up, or would you just fix up a boat for the show and then dump it? I'm not familiar with the vessels Wesley mentioned, but you should look at other waters besides the rivers, since it doesn't seem likely you'll find what you are looking for on the river. It would be wonderful if you could use the DELTA QUEEN, but I don't think it would fit in your timeline. By the way, her passenger load is only 176, but that is because she is an overnight vessel with staterooms. Her dimensions of 285 x 58 would be comparable to what you are looking for though.

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        #18
        Thinking big

        Nothing wrong with thinking big! But if you have to downsize, I'd think that would work, especially if the overhaul was major. While the GOLDENROD is not a self-propelled vessel, you would have impressive shots of the interior filled with hundreds of people in one spot, which you won't get on an excursion vessel. It looks to me like your major problem, which most of us have, is MONEY. While there are boat owners who want to renovate, the cash is not there, such as with the GOLDENROD.

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          #19
          Wesley, that is a capital idea! I still hope that the DELTA QUEEN gets the nod, but the COLUMBIA would be an excellent choice too.

          The COLUMBIA is indeed a historic vessel, and her restoration is in the early phases. She was designed by noted marine architect Frank Kirby to carry folks to and from Detroit, Michigan's BobLo island Amusement Park beginning in 1902. Currently in a Toledo, Ohio shipyard she is being prepared for a journey to New York later this summer. Plans are for her to operate on the Hudson River. The COLUMBIA could carry over 2000 souls at a time during the 88 years she was operating, and many Detroiters have the same fond memories of her that Cincinnatians have of the ISLAND QUEEN

          For further information check SS Columbia Project | Restore | Protect | Revitalize | Educate

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            #20
            TV show abandonded riverboats

            Looked up Columbia on line and the sister ship Ste Claire. Columbia built 1902 other 1910 both carried about 2500 passengers.Ste Claire in 3rd stage of renovations an looks fantastic an Columbia supposedly being restored but looked a little rough in picture I saw.What a great suggestion an I passed it on to the people who are doing the documentary. A side note both boats were partially restored an featured in the 2014 film titled Transformers Age of Extinction. Carole Matthews Pompano Beach FL

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              #21
              From what I've read, a riverboat of any kind in existence is not going to meet the criteria for your show. I have to move away from the rivers. I feel for what you are asking for, the S.S. United States would better suit your needs. If not, I would say get a show together and try to restore the President as it is a riverboat that is at the base level of any loose translation of the word restoration. It would make for an entertaining show.

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                #22
                Riverboat Restoration

                I believe this is a wonderful idea that would both expose people to the riverboating world and add another riverboat to our rivers! As stated earlier, there are many problems. Because most of them have been responded to, I must agree with Ed (partially) with the point that finding a riverboat with your requirements would be difficult. The riverboats available for restoration are mostly either almost too gone to restore at all, or are too small of a job for what you're looking for. Perhaps you could do minor restoration projects on multiple boats? If not, renovating the PRESIDENT would be an interesting task, but you wouldn't just be starting from square 1... you'd practically be starting from scrap. And the condition the parts left are in, this project would need to be humongous! The MAMIE S. BARRETT, in Deer Park, LA, could be restored, but again- that would be a task where you'd practically be starting from scratch. Also, it doesn't have nearly the capacity of 1,000 people. On the other hand, many others have thought of beginning a project for saving her, but nothing has happened. Perhaps these ideas are a little outlandish, but sometimes in the TV world outlandish is great. Good luck!
                -ML

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                  #23
                  Riverboat restoration t v show

                  HI Guys Atlas Media Corp West Coast Burbank Calif indicated they were seriously looking at the BOOMTOWN BELLE a closed up riverboat casino in Belle Chase La.Mark Dalbis is the casting director and who is looking. I indicated I would like to help out and after 3 days of looking till like 3 AM I finally located a contact person for them.Mark thanked me an said they will keep me posted That was last Thursday late in the day.The show is still in the planning stages and he said they were hoping for 5 seasons at leas.Does snyone remember the old t.v.show called Riverboat starring the late Darren McGavin and Burt Reynolds? Please look on the Delta queen site.M Washenko wants to send out Delta Queen donation flyers an I to give out but cannot get through on the e mail he gave.Carole Matthews Pompano Beach Fla.Mark was hoping to contact Keith Norrington to get his take on riverboats in general not that oarticular one so Keith if you read this remember I sent you his phone last week since you were busy with the Julibee maybe call him next week as they value you take on riverboats/steamboats in general NOT THAT PARTICULAR ONE Excuse spelling.

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                    #24
                    I remember the Riverboat TV show. It had a format like a typical western except that the heroes rode a riverboat instead of horses. The producers of that new TV show should get copies of Fred Way's "log of the Betsy Ann" and "Pilotin' cones Natural". The story lines and events described in those volumes should provide enough river related subject matter for several seasons. The true stories and events that happened on the rivers during the steamboat era are much more exiting than anything that Hollywood has yet dreamed up.

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                      #25
                      I credit The Riverboat TV series for starting my Steamboatin' habit. We had just gotten TV, and it was one of the shows we could get (three whole channels)--I was about 5 or 6 at the time. Never did find out what I was watching until a few years ago, and I now have the DVD collection of the series. Some of the sets are pretty realistic, others, well, it was Hollywood!
                      That's the only reason I can figure that a kid raised in a mountain Railroad town would develop a love for river steamers! Well, maybe Mark Twain's books helped too.

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                        #26
                        Riverboat Television Show

                        Riverboat television show ran from Sept.13 1959 to Jan.2 1961 2 seasons was in black an white It an starred Darren McGavin and Burt Reynolds. 44 episodes .Was on NBC. 100 foot long sternwheeler they called Enterprise was used in the series.Supposedly shot about 1840 or so. Seems as though McGavin had won the Enterprise in a poker game. Each episode ran 60 minutes.Produced by Revue Studios. Reynolds was in 20 episodes an McGavin in 42.Noah Berry Jr a relative of Wallace Berry was in some of the episodes.Mary Tyler Moore was also mentioned. Carole Matthews Pompano Beach Fla 33064. PS I remember the show pretty well as I a teenager at that time.Guess that dates me? Thanks for reading.

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                          #27
                          Re Bob Kings Message dated May 26 2015 9 53 AM

                          BOB I have your other e mail and responded to your message as was not able to do so on the org. Site Carole Matthews Pompano Beach Fl Nice to hear from you.Bye

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                            #28
                            Big enough?

                            Riverboat Available Again for Limited Time in Invitation to Bid Sale - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |...

                            Invitation to bid on the North Star riverboat casino located in Paducuh, KY.

                            Just when you thought you missed your chance to buy the riverboat...it's back!

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                              #29
                              Northstar Riverboat Casino Auction

                              Offered by Stuart B. Milliner and Associates. Located on Ohio River at 133 Rose Drive Ledbetter Ky 42058. Former casino fully functional riverboat. Invitation to bid sale closes June 8 2015.Boat built in 1994 with details at on line site.Looks like pretty good size boat as per the photo. Thanks Karl Marx for posting. PS In photo looks to be in good condition. Information obtained said some of the ceiling tiles and carpet have been removed.Otherwise still intact.Check it out Carole M Pompano Beach Fla PS Online form for bidding.

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                                #30
                                I agree with Judy's sentiment. I have had my eye on the Mamie S. Barrett for many years now but the biggest problem is funding. Heck, I've even gone so far as to get back into school to pursue an MBA in order to figure out how to gain access to the capital markets to put something like this (and other business ventures) together. No funding = no boat. (sigh)

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