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  • Bob Harrison
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    [/I]I would like to know about the whistle to see if it is for sale or not

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  • Judy Patsch
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    Yes, it's a shame they didn't sell the stuff to people who wanted it before the dismantling. Not only would MQ parts have been valued mementos, but they would have been working parts on the NATCHEZ (searchlight, reels, for instance). I imagine the owner figured he could get better prices, but probably ended up with nothing in many cases.

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  • Lee Bercegeay
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    Mermaid Wheel

    No, the mermaids wheel disappeared at the Harvey canal. I saw it with my own eyes. One trip there , it was there. My next trip, it wasn't.

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  • Lee Bercegeay
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    Mermaid wheel

    Travis, the Wheel between the Mermaids disappeared while at the Harvey canal. The mermaids were the first thing I asked about when I went there to save what I could, but the then owner's rep said no. "They could sell those to some bar or restaurant in NOLA." though he still gave me access to gather other things. On one of 5 times I went, the wheel was missing. And of course they didn't do anything with the mermaids and they ended up at Pierre Part. I contacted the yard owner's son ( who seemed frustrated with the attention) said what others here have, that he would set up some kind of auction. And look what happened Just like I knew it would. While at harvey the thought crossed my mind to "Liberate them" but I didn't want to jeopardize the permission I did have to save what I could. Plus, I loved the gal but not enough to go to Jail! LOL. Its just sad when you what's going to happen and can't do anything about it. I also contacted the seller by ebay about the other mermaid but got no response. Besides, I'm not sure i'd want one without the other.

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  • George Burch
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    Originally posted by Denny Hamilton View Post
    Honestly, I don't know what the hoopla about those mermaids is all about. To my taste, they never belonged on a Western Rivers steamboat. Maybe they'd do well on a cruise ship, but they are a big NO-NO on a steamboat! I applaud the Howard Museum (Keith?) for their lack of interest in them, as they do not represent true steamboatiana, nor do they represent the true style of American steamboating. I say, "BYE, bye mermaids!"

    -Denny Hamilton-

    I know that there was controversy over the bare busted girls, but still they were a part of history and what made the MQ what it was. it would be nice to see them reunited and continue to look over the river for generations to come(my personal opinion).


    As mentioned in my earlier reply above, I realize that not everyone liked the ladies, or even the boat itself.

    I considered this forum to also be about history and the knowledge gained by several folks that want to share with others. With that in mind, I thought I would share what I had learned about the fate of the statues. Somewhere, somebody will want them, or at least want to know what became of them.

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  • Frank X. Prudent
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    Originally posted by Denny Hamilton View Post
    Honestly, I don't know what the hoopla about those mermaids is all about. To my taste, they never belonged on a Western Rivers steamboat. Maybe they'd do well on a cruise ship, but they are a big NO-NO on a steamboat! I applaud the Howard Museum (Keith?) for their lack of interest in them, as they do not represent true steamboatiana, nor do they represent the true style of American steamboating. I say, "BYE, bye mermaids!"

    -Denny Hamilton-
    Mark Twain said, "It's a difference of opinion that makes a horse race." I have always liked LeVerne and Shirley holding sway up by the MQ's calliope. I think they were best when they were young and painted to look like bronze statues. Now, if you want something that I have always held in disdain, all that garrish circus stuff around the DQ's calliope. That stuff appeared in 1971, and never should have been put on a tourist boat like the DQ.

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  • Judy Patsch
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    Mermaids

    The reason I started this thread was because these were a part of the MQ, not considering whether they were a proper steamboating tradition or not. THAT was the big whoop de doo for me, to see MQ items appearing for profit. They indeed do not fit into the Howard style and Keith refused them accordingly - plus the owner wanted him to determine their value, which the museum cannot do. I'm sure I've got stuff in my collection which pleases me but which would cause others to scratch their heads... to each their own!

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  • Denny Hamilton
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    Mermaids? OMG!!

    Honestly, I don't know what the hoopla about those mermaids is all about. To my taste, they never belonged on a Western Rivers steamboat. Maybe they'd do well on a cruise ship, but they are a big NO-NO on a steamboat! I applaud the Howard Museum (Keith?) for their lack of interest in them, as they do not represent true steamboatiana, nor do they represent the true style of American steamboating. I say, "BYE, bye mermaids!"

    -Denny Hamilton-

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  • George Burch
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    George Burch I spoke with the seller and holder of the statues last night. It was very hard to get a handle on what they have, and how they acquired them. I am now told though that they have reunited both girls and would prefer to sell them as a pair. I asked and was told that the "wheel" is gone.

    I was told that they offered this to the museum in exchange for a for a tax deduction certificate and now they are trying to sell them. I am told that condition on one is fair and the other is poor, now having some cracks in the tail, with one of the two having a missing finger. They believe that the construction material is fiberglass but not sure. Either way it sounds like they would need quite a bit of restoration.

    The asking price for the pair is $7500.00 and they would prefer to deliver them for a fee. They stated that they are fragile and it would be difficult and expensive to ship them.

    They mentioned that the bell was supposed to go to the museum but did not know the status. They also mentioned that they knew the where-a-bouts of the whistle. They also have some sections of handrail and went on to add that the caliope was destroyed along with pretty much everything else. The girl listing the ebay add claims to have a number of pictures that might be worth pursueing?

    I am still trying to work a deal to purchase but don't know that it will happen. My guess is that they will end up in somebody's camp or bar and eventually disapear. The reality of what they are really worth and how much of an audience there really is Vs what they want to sell them for ar ecompeting issues.

    Will keep you posted on any progress.

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  • Judy Patsch
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    MQ remains

    If the wheel to which you refer is the one the mermaids were holding, it was purloined while the boat was still at Perry St. in New Orleans. I think the calliope whistles disappeared then too. This seller obviously knows somebody at Argosy, as they were going to have a sale or auction of the remains, but we've never heard of such happening. I suspect this person went in and made an offer so they never bothered with a formal sale. There should have been running lights, searchlights, and signs also available, which were there on Aug. 2 when I visited. We saw a section of decking with stairs and rails and also the octagonal viewing platform in front of the pilothouse lying on the grounds too. They've probably cut those things into sections for sale. I posted pictures of this wreckage back in August:
    http://www.steamboats.org/forum/stea...-2-2011-a.html

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  • George Burch
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    I spoke with the seller and holder of the statues last night. It was very hard to get a handle on what they have, and how they acquired them. I am now told though that they have reunited both girls and would prefer to sell them as a pair. I asked and was told that the "wheel" is gone.

    I was told that they offered this to the museum in exchange for a for a tax deduction certificate and now they are trying to sell them. I am told that condition on one is fair and the other is poor, now having some cracks in the tail, with one of the two having a missing finger. They believe that the construction material is fiberglass but not sure. Either way it sounds like they would need quite a bit of restoration.

    The asking price for the pair is $7500.00 and they would prefer to deliver them for a fee. They stated that they are fragile and it would be difficult and expensive to ship them.

    They mentioned that the bell was supposed to go to the museum but did not know the status. They also mentioned that they knew the where-a-bouts of the whistle. They also have some sections of handrail and went on to add that the caliope was destroyed along with pretty much everything else. The girl listing the ebay add claims to have a number of pictures that might be worth pursueing?

    I am still trying to work a deal to purchase but don't know that it will happen. My guess is that they will end up in somebody's camp or bar and eventually disapear. The reality of what they are really worth and how much of an audience there really is Vs what they want to sell them for ar ecompeting issues.

    Will keep you posted on any progress.

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  • Keith Norrington
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    No Mermaids on the Model

    The large model of the MISSISSIPPI QUEEN which we have on display at the Howard Steamboat Museum is very detailed, but does NOT feature the mermaids. Above the calliope whistles are two cherubs tooting trumpets!

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  • Judy Patsch
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    Wht the NATCHEZ wanted

    Yes, the NATCHEZ crew went over to the Harvey Canal several times and went aboard looking at possible items. They wanted ONE searchlight, but the owner would only sell both for about $5000, so they declined. They also wanted an overhead spool for the shoreline and a stern capstan. When they got to deal with the person at Argosy, the lights had been cut off, the spools gone, but they did buy one stern capstan. I'm wondering what happened to the running lights, which were on her all the way to Belle River, and the signs they removed intact and had in the shed at Argosy...

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  • David Dewey
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    "Searchlights were lying in the mud, and the remnants of the calliope were by the mermaids. "

    What a WASTE!! I know the B of L or the Natchez was wanting to buy the lights before they were cut off.
    Scrappers can be so um, thoughtless?--I knew one who took delight in destroying stuff that he could have sold for much more than scrap price (mostly antique car stuff).
    S'
    David D.

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  • Judy Patsch
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    MQ mermaids

    This mermaid listed for $5000 on EBay is the only one whose location is known for sure - both were at the Argosy Boat Co. in Belle River LA on Aug. 2 when I visited. I doubt if the seller is going to get $5000 for the mermaid, so you might contact her after the sale and make an offer. Since she lives near the boat company, she should also know the whereabouts of the other one. As we understood it when we talked with the guard, it was going to be Argosy Boat. Co. which sold the artifacts they had saved, so you might phone them to see what is left. They had the big stern nameboard inside the shed, as well as the Welcome sign. Searchlights were lying in the mud, and the remnants of the calliope were by the mermaids. You are correct that the Howard is not buying the mermaids - the wheel was dismantled at Argosy. The bell was promised to the Howard but has not yet arrived. Good luck on your mission!

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