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    Updated List of Cities Passing Resolutions

    Neal Kapp has asked whether there is a posting on the board giving a current listing of those communties who have adopted resolutions in support of the DELTA QUEEN. To my knowledge, there is not a coordinated overall list that is current, but that information may be helpful for those of us who are working to generate support from this quarter. To my knowledge, the list of resolutions on the Upper Mississippi which have been passed to date are from city councils in Hastings, Red Wing, and Keokuk. I am working hard on the Dubuque city council, and my sample resolution has been forwarded to the city manager for his recommendation to the full council at a future meeting. The council's secretary assures me I will be invited to the meeting where it is discussed. Those of you working on getting resolutions passed by cities on the Ohio, Lower Mississippi, Kanawha, Illinois, St. Croix, Tennessee, Cumberland, etc. please update our list so we know where to concentrate efforts. Thank you!

    #2
    I believe David Vrooman might have an updated list of cities/agencies that have passed the Resolution. So far I've gotten Clarksville and Corydon, Indiana and the Howard Steamboat Museum. I'm working on Louisville, New Albany, Madison, and Charlestown Indiana and the Floyd and Clark County Commissioners. What we think should be a piece of cake seems to be a sllllooooowwwww process.

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      #3
      Here's my end-of-November list (beyond Jo Ann's and David's):

      Marietta
      Maysville
      Heritage Ohio (the National Trust's state affiliate)
      Point Pleasant (by Barb Hameister)
      Boyd County, KY (by Jim Armstrong)
      Bridgeport, AL (by John Lewis)
      Lockland, OH (reported by John Lewis)
      Chattanooga (C of C, by Pat Carr)

      The above folks have other resolution requests in the works as well.

      Dave V.
      Last edited by David Vrooman; 01-30-2008, 11:25 AM.

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        #4
        Jo Ann and David,

        While the DELTA QUEEN was in Grandview, IN I spoke with people at the Town Hall and lead them to this site. They were able to pass a resolution that evening. So add them to the list!

        Thanks to David for posting the information here so it was easy to lead the proverbial horse to the water....result...he drank!

        ~Travis~

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          #5
          Updated resolution list

          In the interest of saving everyone the time of checking multiple postings, I will try to keep the following resolution list up to date in this single posting. If you have an addition, let me know, and I will edit the list.

          Here it is -- alphabetically, and without attribution:

          Ashland, KY
          Boyd County, KY
          Bridgeport, AL
          Burlington, IA
          Catlettsburg, KY
          Chattanooga, TN (C of C)
          Cincinnati, OH
          Clark County, IN
          Clarksville, IN
          Columbus, OH
          Corydon, IN
          Dubuque, IA
          Dubuque County Historical Society (IA)
          East Liverpool, OH
          Evansville, IN
          Gallipolis, OH
          Grandview, IN
          Greenup, KY
          Hastings, MN
          Heritage Ohio
          Howard Steamboat Museum
          Ironton, OH
          Kentucky House of Representatives
          Keokuk, IA
          Lockland, OH
          Louisville, KY
          Madison, IN
          Marietta, OH
          Maysville, KY
          Middle Ohio R. Chapter, S&D of Pioneer Rivermen
          Natchez, MS
          National Rivers Hall of Fame
          New Albany, IN
          New Richmond, OH
          Ohio House of Representatives
          Paducah, KY
          Pittsburgh, PA
          Point Pleasant, WV
          Red Wing, MN
          St. Paul, MN
          Sewickley, PA
          Sheffield, AL
          Vanceburg, KY
          Wabasha, MN
          Last edited by David Vrooman; 07-02-2008, 03:34 PM. Reason: additional info

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            #6
            Where are the big cities? Any progress on resolutions from St. Paul, St. Louis, Memphis,
            Louisville, Cincinnati, Paducah, New Orleans, Nashville, Baton Rouge, etc.? Chattanoga seems to be the only one so far. It seems to me that these could add more weight to the effort to influence elected officials.

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              #7
              Yeah! I just got New Albany's Resolution this morning! I'm still working on Louisville.

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                #8
                Jim --

                Jim Armstrong and I discussed this issue when he went after Pittsburgh/Allegheny County. I expressed delight and amazement when he said that he thought that he could deliver up there -- I was afraid that the DQ generated too small a percentage of their tourism dollars for them to care very much (it's much more significant for Marietta, Red Wing, and Point Pleasant). I don't know the status of their resolution, but I take the absence of a report not to be a good sign.

                But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. I have had a problem getting people to try: of 5 people (frequent posters on this board) whom I asked to pursue just one of our 3 most conspicuous gaps (Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Memphis), only two even bothered to tell me "no." On the positive side, Jon Tschiggfrie and Tom Hawkins are working on St. Paul, Lexie Palmore is working on New Orleans and Baton Rouge, Jo Ann Schoen is working on Louisville, and Gayle Hindman is working on Nashville.

                But we still have gaps. If anyone out there lives in or near those gaps and is willing to step into the breach, the rest of us would be most grateful.

                Dave V.
                Last edited by David Vrooman; 01-30-2008, 11:26 AM.

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                  #9
                  Hi, steamboating colleagues:
                  The 'so far' list is good but more needs to be done here. I've approached not only the congessional reps but city council here. Forget the County Commissioners. So far nothing...but in some ways expected. David and others here know what the process is like. First, I write...don't phone. Since the November elections many incumbents here were returned to office. From Civic Association work, City Hall inititiatives I saw that arriving correspondence, E=Mails [Checked for veracity] and now FAXES, are 'date/time stamped' and put in order of business to be addressed under the appropriate committee with a chair person. Unfortunately, many meetings are held once a week, every two weeks or once a month. Something with the words DELTA QUEEN won't make these people stop with excitement. We have horrendous issues here in town now RE: crime, business development, police/fire initiatives, racial/ethnic matters, sports development projects, education etc. I learned never to demand beyond what I could give in return. David, in all respect, I don't know who the "No" people may have been but I know I wasn't one. We're all together in this. It's up and on...but be prepared. I'd rather have an elected official come clean and reply that they don't have the concern or that appeals are from outside their districts. Because we vote for a candidate doesn't mean they are going to tell us what we want to hear. Some of these people indicate they are "tired of being badgered."

                  At a recent meeting I addressed, again, the DQ initiative issue to my table of ten men. When mentioned one looked over his glasses, "The DELTA QUEEN? Here we go again." Another in business said, "That is a corporate issue under onwership...not in the public domain." Natch, I settled a little lower in my red leather board chair. One unnamed congressional rep replied in a friendly way over dinner, "Dale, in one week I addressed issues on: deaths/casualties in Iraq; GM motor strike; jobs bleeding out of the country to Asia; Foreign Relations issues. Now, if in my shoes, which ones do you think I'm going to address first?"

                  Jo Ann, and many others, have done legion work much appreciated by all. The number of signatures on petitions at on/around 1,000 gave me pause. When Betty Blake and Bill Muster coordinated the earlier DQ exemption issue they literally trundled rolls of petitions to the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. The cameras were rolling and when the petition containing thousands and thousands of signatures was unrolled it spread from the plaza up the marble steps to the doors of the Capitol Building. Most impressive and it made the point. Times were differet then. Just look at the issues nationally and financially facing the average person today. There are legions here in town who have absolutely no knowledge or concern about not only the Ohio River but the DELTA QUEEN. It hurts, but true.

                  We've worked in one way or another; some more or less. I think we'll all be glad when this issue is over and closed...one way or another. The wheels grind slowly and finely with life going on.

                  Cheers,
                  R. Dale Flick

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                    #10
                    Jim Cullum, the famed Dixieland bandleader at the Landing in San Antonio, has posted a nice article about the Delta Queen situation in the Dec. edition of the newsletter on his riverwalkjazz.org website. Jim has a very large fan-base, so this is a good bit of publicity. Also, there is a good article about the Goldenrod.

                    Paul Bowman

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                      #11
                      At Steve Chabot's press conference on October 26, our Councilwoman Leslie Ghiz was present. She promised a Resolution from the City of Cincinnati. I have just emailed her to ask where is it and when will we see it. I have also asked Chabots office to notify her about the promised resolution.
                      On the lighter side: We have a new Ch@troom question each week in our Community Western Hills Press. Question was: If you could get anything you want for Christmas, what would it be? MY ANSWER: "If I could have anything I wanted for Christmas I would like for the Transportation Committee in Washington to pass the Bill 3852 extending the life of the Historic Delta Queen Steamboat on our rivers. What a Christmas present that would be!!!!"
                      Marian

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                        #12
                        "When Betty Blake and Bill Muster"....that's the thing that is missing in this effort....the boats owners and management. Betty Blake and Bill Muster were the company. They were fighting to keep the company going. I'm afraid that without the stockholders and executives of MAL putting out a 100% effort, the cause is for naught. It sounds to me like they have no intention of running the boat after the 2008 season exemption or not, otherwise they would be spearheading this drive. Does anyone know if they even sent a letter to the stockholders requesting they contact their representatives? I know one thing, if this web site had been in existance in 1970, Muster and Betty would have personnally written to each and every one of us.
                        It will be fun to see what MAL does if the boat is granted an exemption.

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                          #13
                          Dale,
                          Yes, most city "fathers" meetings are a tough crowd. One needs to come prepared for combat. Now, I've had the opportunity and the luxury of having some time to think over what you faced, so I'm certain that, in the same situation, I probably would have done the same as you! What we have to do is to rehearse worst case situations before we go "into battle."
                          What I think should have been said is something like, "What do you mean "not again"? This has not been an issue since 1970! And why do you think this is "not in the public domain"? What we are asking is for a mis-applied federal public law be corrected to allow a National Landmark to continue to operate, preserving an important piece of American History. The City Fathers of Clarksville, IN, Corydon, IN, Grandview, IN, Hastings, MN, Heritage Ohio, Keokuk, IA, Loveland, OH, Marietta, OH, New Albany, IN,
                          Point Pleasant, WV, Red Wing, MN all found this issue to be worthy of passing resolutions in favor of supporting the Delta Queen by asking Congress to extend her exemption from the Safety of Ships At Sea law.
                          They all want to save a bit of American History! Do you want to be on record for not supporting the continued operation of the last operating overnight Steamboat on the American Rivers? Not supporting the preservation of a National Landmark so our future generations can have the opportunity to experience this uniquely American experience?"
                          I realize this is a one-two punch, first, join the bandwagon; and second, don't destroy American History. Might work???
                          And yes, there are seemingly more pressing issues out there, but keeping our history alive in spite of everything going on is also a very worthy cause.
                          S'
                          David D.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jim Reising View Post
                            Does anyone know if they even sent a letter to the stockholders requesting they contact their representatives?
                            I have been an Ambassadors International stock holder since April 2006, and I haven't been contacted for my support by any of the powers that be. Heck, I didn't even get my annual report until 4 days before the shareholders' meeting earlier this year.

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                              #15
                              Hi, David & steamboating colleagues:
                              Great insights, David, in your above posting and thanks! First, I never give up hope in any civic or legislative process. Our civic group here worked for 14 years[!] with local powers to get the new recreation center built just a few blocks away. As in the case of me meeting/talking with the gentlemen over dinner RE: the DQ initiative I was the one presenting and asking questions. They gave me their gut sentiments and opinions from the perspective of people in political arenas and big business. I asked and they replied. So, here was little 'gabby Dale' in a near one-on-one with a group of individuals representing a cool $500,000,000. Not that means everything, but when they talk...you listen and take to heart. I think our one politico with the "Here we go again" was expressing a gut reaction as he thought the issue had been resolved some years ago. "Not in the public domain" comes with strong legal implications. The man meant, I think, that such an effort is on behalf of a for profit corporation and, in essence, why would we being fighting their battles and do we have their full cooperation and approval? Would AMBASSADOR/MAL do it for any of us? The answer is a no brainer. My good friend Jim Reising is correct in recalling the early days of Betty Blake and Bill Muster's classic efforts. Betty was head of the company, had financial resources along with legal counsel and services of another Public Relations consultant dealing with the media and political/legislative initiatives. Betty not only would "write back," she'd get your address/phone number and call adding you to her list of 'volunteers' with, "If you're interested then see you tomorrow with envelopes to stuff and phone calls to make." That was our Betty Blake.

                              Frank Prudent is oh, so correct from the view of a stockholder. Yet, stockholders at times are the last that a board of directors, CEO's want to know the nitty gritty. I manage a large portfolio here and receive nothing from then other than the annual report with proxy forms to vote. Rather sobering when you realize you are out-voted by another stockholder or board member with thousands of shares and each represents one vote.

                              The 'National Landmark' designation the DELTA QUEEN carries doesn't mean a thing. The boat is still under ownership and management of a corporation. When you try to mix 'National Landmark' with a privately owned vessel, land structure etc. you've got headaches. I could write a horror story on that alone. No, I learned long ago that the DQ is unknown by more than known. These people we contact mean well in extending a listening ear and help...but they aren't going to get a warm, fuzzy feeling all over. The DQ initiative is but one these people are faced with daily and quickly put in a scheme of priorities. I've written, called, talked...now I'll step back and let the dust settle. Again, I think we ALL want this thing settled and over one way or the other. Well, what do I know?

                              Cheers, and thanks for posting from way out there,
                              R. Dale Flick

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