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alan radecki 11-12-2016 07:09 PM

Any info on a Sacrament boat called "Columbia"?
 
Does anyone have any information on a riverboat called the Columbia that served on the Sacramento River in the late 1800s or early 1900s? I'm trying to research an old photo of it tied up at a pier in San Francisco, trying to decide if there's a story there for my Lost America Found blog. So far, combing the internet, I've come up with nada.

R. Dale Flick 11-13-2016 09:03 AM

*RE: Sacramento River Str. COLUMBIA*Steamboating colleagues:
Alan, your above appeal for information caught my attention here RE: "Str. COLUMBIA...Sacramento River etc." You mention coming up with "nada" and so did I. I yanked a scarce copy in my home library here titled 'PADDLE-WHEEL DAYS IN CALIFORNIA' by Jerry MacMullen, Stanford University Press, printings 1944/1945. I see no listing for any COLUMBIA in Appendix A under his 'Steamboats in California' or Appendix D under even 'Ferry Vessels.' Now, what additional information has been found or published since 1945 a good question. I met Jerry years ago on the DELTA QUEEN and he was no spring chicken then. He was a professional newspaperman and accomplished artist. In his Appendix on "Steamboat names that were changed" I see no COLUMBIA so listed 'before' or 'after' any name change. Later I'll also try to click up some maritime web sites I know. Years ago John Burns, son of old Jim Burns who built the DELTA KING & DELTA QUEEN quipped off-handed, "There's no real interest in river steamboats out here in California much like you all have back on the Ohio/Mississippi Rivers." Could be and if so, what's that tell you? True packet steamboating survived out in California longer than here. When the new fast interurban trains, bridges and highways were built that closed the door on packet/passenger river steamers.

I'd suggest you contact the Haggin Museum in Sacramento along with their historical society there for any lead. Much to all comes up, as you know, in internet research. No idea what the big maritime museum down in San Francisco has but worth a try. The biggest job in doing a paper, speech, article is getting the basic names and research right. After that it should flow like water when you begin to write. Hope this helps in some feeble way. Keep us posted. Again, what do I know?

R. Dale Flick
Old Coal Haven Landing, Ohio River, Cincinnati.

David Dewey 11-15-2016 04:13 AM

Alan,
"Colombia" rings a bell in my memory, but when my hard drive crashed, I lost most of my notes on CA steamboats. I did a talk called "History Lost -- The Steamboats' role in Developing Northern California." Because, as Dale mentions, there isn't much "romance" out here about steamboats, although they were a major factor in the Gold Rush and the development of California until about 1890, and still going to 1932s when a major fire destroyed most of the larger boats. In very recent years there has been a small resurgence of interest in the boats of California.
I was looking around for a small book I have on California Steamboats, but I can't find it--it was a small printing, and isn't common--and I can't think of the title! However, you might look for "Pacific Steamboats" by Newell & Williamson. If I find that book of mine in the next few days, I'll let you know.
Steamcerely,
David Dewey
PS there is a neat novel "Winds of Promise" by Bodie & Brock Throne based on the cruise and times of the steamer, "New World" which had a very interesting life coming to California.

Frank X. Prudent 11-15-2016 09:42 PM

I don't currently have access to my Lytle Holkamper List, but a boat that late should be in it.

alan radecki 11-20-2016 04:11 PM

Thanks!
 
David,

Definitely appreciate the reply from you and Dale! If you come up with anything, let me know!

Alan

[QUOTE=David Dewey;36058]Alan,
"Colombia" rings a bell in my memory, but when my hard drive crashed, I lost most of my notes on CA steamboats. I did a talk called "History Lost -- The Steamboats' role in Developing Northern California." Because, as Dale mentions, there isn't much "romance" out here about steamboats, although they were a major factor in the Gold Rush and the development of California until about 1890, and still going to 1932s when a major fire destroyed most of the larger boats. In very recent years there has been a small resurgence of interest in the boats of California.
I was looking around for a small book I have on California Steamboats, but I can't find it--it was a small printing, and isn't common--and I can't think of the title! However, you might look for "Pacific Steamboats" by Newell & Williamson. If I find that book of mine in the next few days, I'll let you know.
Steamcerely,
David Dewey
PS there is a neat novel "Winds of Promise" by Bodie & Brock Throne based on the cruise and times of the steamer, "New World" which had a very interesting life coming to California.[/QUOTE]

Carl Jones 12-01-2016 05:33 PM

alan
There was a tug boat created at San Francisco named "Columbia" in 1868 she was made from the bow portion of the a sailing brig built in Mainer in 1849. she and a square stern as wide as her midship section. She was so slow it took 41 days to make the normal 3 day run from San Francisco to Seattle. one story reported from her was that her tremendous derriere caused the steamer to drag a great wake behind her. There is a story of a crew member falling overboard at her stern and went missing for three days but was found still being dragged along behind the tug at the end of her voyage. He was quit hungry but otherwise none the worse for the experience. from Ships of the Inland Sea. {Puget Sound} by Gordon Newell.

There is an another source back in the 1860's and 70's and maybe longer the Annual list of Masters Mates, Pilots and Engineers has a list of the boats inspected for each testing site. My few copies did not show a Columbia at San Francisco.
Utah Riverrat.


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