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    Default m/v Zachary Taylor

    Anyone in the Louisville area know how the auction went for the m/v Zachary Taylor? Just curious as to whether she sold, and where she might be headed.

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    Steve, I was once a member of the Zachary Taylor sea scouts (1957-58) and the commander was named Ted Huffman. Are you related to him? Also, this boat is named Zachary Taylor II but it's history seems to go back to the late 1940's. It looks a little different than I remember the boat and when I was involved, the boat was powered by a single gasoline engine. This one has twin diesels. Was the boat expanded in a rebuilding or is this a replacement for the original ZT? As for the auction, I found a web site for the auctioneer that indicated it was sold but does not say who bought it or the sales price. They seemed to be asking $ 45,000. Is this sea scout unit now defunct or do they have a new boat? Just curious....Jim Herron

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    Jim,
    I'm not sure, but it may be the same Zachary Taylor that you were on. I guess it was extensively rebuilt in 1962. The price had dropped to $29,500 before the auction. I'm not related to the late Capt Ted Huffman, but was surprised when I read the name recently.

    I think the sea scout unit is still around, but I don't know if they have a new vessel to replace the Zachary Taylor. Pete O'Connell would know.. Pete?

    Was surprised to see some of your steam locomotive video on the RFD channel the other day. Neat footage! I guess you saw my thread about the BARBARA H added to the Microsoft Train Simulator(?).

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    Steve-
    We've been running a series of 10 shows on RFD-TV, beginning April 23rd.
    The show next week is on the Indiana RR, the interurban that had over 800 miles of track in Indiana. The week after that, we'll run a documentary on the railroad empire of Jim Hill, who started out in the steamboat business. The last show in the series will be the week of June 26th with a show on steam in Germany. We may get them to run Iron Crowns & Paddlewheels but I don't know when it would be.Thanks for your comments.
    -Jim

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    It's the same Zachary Taylor. The boat was a continuous rebuilding job as long as Ted Huffman lived. She was like the family axe that had three new blades and five new handles, but was the same old axe.

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    The RH Shipyard Traveling Inspectors made a recent journey to see the ZT with the possibility of purchase in mind. The scout reps were very hospitable, and we did enjoy the visit, but decided the ZAC wasn't the boat for us. She did a grand pilothouse and the hull looked better than expected. One main drawback was the lack of a staircase to the Boiler (huh?) Deck and had a couple of vertical ladders going up, instead. Our guide delighted in telling that Colonel Harlan "Finger-lickin' Good" Sanders had been a wheelhouse guest. As I got stuck in the hatchway getting onto the second deck, I was curious as to how the Colonel fared making the same journey some years ago.

    Pray tell... anyone know what the ZAC T brought at auction? We'd have gone 10K.

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    Photo of the Zachary Taylor. Built 1949, 62' x 17', twin Detroit 6-71's.
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    Not to dispute Alan Bates but I believe this is the second Zachary Taylor, the first one sank in the late 1950's or early 60's. The orginal ZT was wood hulled and was docked at Municipal Harbor. It was similar design and looked a lot like the present day Zach.
    About 1960 someone gave the Boy Scouts of America a steel hulled single engine houseboat that was names HO-KY-OH if my memory serves me correctly. I believe there is a picture of it in Alan's book BELLE OF LOUISVILLE. The boat was taken over by Skipper Huffman's Sea Scout Ship 152 and after much revamping it emerged as the boat you see today. This boat also sank once when a pipe froze while it was in winter dock in the surge basin at McAlpine locks. Whayne McBride raised it and repaired it on his drydock in New Albany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Reising View Post
    Not to dispute Alan Bates but I believe this is the second Zachary Taylor, the first one sank in the late 1950's or early 60's. The orginal ZT was wood hulled and was docked at Municipal Harbor. It was similar design and looked a lot like the present day Zach.
    About 1960 someone gave the Boy Scouts of America a steel hulled single engine houseboat that was names HO-KY-OH if my memory serves me correctly. I believe there is a picture of it in Alan's book BELLE OF LOUISVILLE. The boat was taken over by Skipper Huffman's Sea Scout Ship 152 and after much revamping it emerged as the boat you see today. This boat also sank once when a pipe froze while it was in winter dock in the surge basin at McAlpine locks. Whayne McBride raised it and repaired it on his drydock in New Albany.
    I was a Sea Explorer on the Zachary Taylor II and told the history of the ship on many cruises, my time onboard was about 1968-71.

    The boat you mentioned HO KY OH I think was actually the OLKYHO which was short for Old Kentucky Home Council the former name of the current council of the Boy Scouts of America the includes Louisville. Though ZTII was operated by the Sea Ezplorer Ship I think the council actually owned the boat. The ships number was 180 to mirror its sponsor Zachary Taylor Post of the American Legion in St Matthews, Ky.

    Skipper Huffman was a continuous tinker and there was always an ongoing project. During my time aboard we repaired damage to the port stern which was damaged by a barge trying to enter the channel into the McAlpine Locks barely missing the paddle wheel of the Belle of Louisville. Blisters were added to the hull to improve stability and allow more guest to be on the Texas Deck. During a wintering over period in the Army Corps of Engineers McAlpine Surge Basin both Diesel engines were completely rebuilt. A radar was salvaged And donated I think by one of the barge lines. As I was told there were many USCG items that were grandfathered over the years which lapsed after Skipper Huffmans passed and a required inspection was missed.

    i was sad to hear of the demise of the Zach however besides requiring a trained adult leader the boat also had to have USCG licensed Ships Master onboard when sailing. Skipper Huffman and several of the mates had the required license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipyard Sam View Post
    The RH Shipyard Traveling Inspectors made a recent journey to see the ZT with the possibility of purchase in mind. The scout reps were very hospitable, and we did enjoy the visit, but decided the ZAC wasn't the boat for us. She did a grand pilothouse and the hull looked better than expected. One main drawback was the lack of a staircase to the Boiler (huh?) Deck and had a couple of vertical ladders going up, instead. Our guide delighted in telling that Colonel Harlan "Finger-lickin' Good" Sanders had been a wheelhouse guest. As I got stuck in the hatchway getting onto the second deck, I was curious as to how the Colonel fared making the same journey some years ago.

    Pray tell... anyone know what the ZAC T brought at auction? We'd have gone 10K.

    Col. Harlan Sanders was a guest several times on the ZTII, he was a large supporter of the Boy Scouts and I was aboard during several of those visits. With either an adult or Sea Scout assisting him he climbed the stern ladder to the Texas Deck.

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